In this light-hearted, chatty episode, Renée and Gio catch up on each other's creative efforts, recent dietary choices, and their mental health as uncertainty about the world's safety and health persists. Renée asks the timely question: "What is wrong with coasting?" and Gio explores what working to his potential has meant for his mental health for the past few decades, and why creative work can be so challenging when it all depends on self-motivating. 🚧 Detours include RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars (Season 6 spoilers!), Gio's love of disco mixes, empathy burnout, internal family system therapy and how, if you try hard enough, you can actually reprogram your personality. 

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Gio Petrucci: giografik.com

Renée Meloche: reneewrought.com