This week's episode continues where last weeks unexpectedly dropped off with NatureWise Mama. This is a more broad-ranging conversation covering a variety of topics including sleep as medicine, NatureWise Mama's adventures in the desert, on the White Rim Trail in Canyonlands, how to poop in the woods and using dirt for cleaning, a tiny bikini, the role of nature as a shaman, counting one's blessings and some of her favorite books. In no surprise for longtime listeners, NatureWise Mama asks me a few questions and we chat about group dynamics in the context of a BOSS course. 

As always, connect with me at [email protected] with questions, comments and guest suggestions. Opt outside today, and have fun!

Links:

The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran

Women Who Run With The Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Estes 

Deep Survival