<p>In this episode, Simone and Jonna explore what it really takes to lead when the path ahead is unclear. From letting go of the illusion of control to embracing curiosity as a leadership superpower, they offer practical ways to lead with confidence, not certainty. The conversation also touches on resilience, emotional intelligence, and how to create clarity and trust when nothing feels stable. </p>

In this episode, Simone and Jonna explore what it really takes to lead when the path ahead is unclear. From letting go of the illusion of control to embracing curiosity as a leadership superpower, they offer practical ways to lead with confidence, not certainty. The conversation also touches on resilience, emotional intelligence, and how to create clarity and trust when nothing feels stable.

E9 Leading Through Uncertainty

Quest 2 the C.O.R.E. 
Curiosity. Openness. Reflection. Embrace. 

Leadership isn't about titles, it's about influence. And whether you're just starting out or leading at the highest level, how you show up matters. Your words, actions, and mindset shape those around you. That's why we created this podcast. 

Quest 2 the C.O.R.E. is your space to explore leadership from the inside out. Hosted by Jonna van Thiel and Simone Kelly, two leadership strategists and coaches, the show bridges the gap between researched-backed theory and real-world practice. 

Each episode blends thought-provoking conversation with practical tools to help you lead with more intention, insight, and impact. We unpack topics like emotional intelligence, executive presence, critical thinking, self-awareness, and the daily challenges that come with leading people, projects, and organizations. 
You won't find quick fixes or one-size-fits all answers here. Instead, we help you ask better questions, rethink old habits, and grow into the leader you're meant to be. Join us as we challenge assumptions, expand perspectives, and build a community of reflective, growth-minded leaders.

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Quest 2 the C.O.R.E. Curiosity. Openness. Reflection. Embrace. Leadership isn't about titles, it's about influence. And whether you're just starting out or leading at the highest level, how you show up matters. Your words, actions, and mindset shape those around you. That's why we created this podcast. Quest 2 the C.O.R.E. is your space to explore leadership from the inside out. Hosted by Jonna van Thiel and Simone Kelly, two leadership strategists and coaches, the show bridges the gap between researched-backed theory and real-world practice. Each episode blends thought-provoking conversation with practical tools to help you lead with more intention, insight, and impact. We unpack topics like emotional intelligence, executive presence, critical thinking, self-awareness, and the daily challenges that come with leading people, projects, and organizations. You won't find quick fixes or one-size-fits all answers here. Instead, we help you ask better questions, rethink old habits, and grow into the leader you're meant to be. Join us as we challenge assumptions, expand perspectives, and build a community of reflective, growth-minded leaders.

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