E93: Belonging and Healing [Part 4]: The Root Before the Fruit

Kayanna: (singing).

Dr. Dave:

So hello and welcome to the KnolShare with Dr. Dave Podcast. This is Dr. Dave Cornelius, your host. We're continuing the conversation of belonging and healing, with my guest, Tracy Treacy from D & S Healing Center. Hey Tracy Treacy, how have you been?

Tracy:

Woo-hoo. Awesome. I've been doing well. How about you, sir?

Dr. Dave:

You know, same here, same here. Just one day at a time. We use the metaphor, an island of one, one, one, one. It's like walking, so one, one.

Tracy:

Okay.

Dr. Dave:

Okay. Yeah. Hey, we're getting into the conversation around healing. So one, one. One foot in front of the other, because sometimes that's what it takes, right?

Tracy:

Yeah. I mean you don't want to go backwards, though sometimes you do, but the idea is to... one foot in front of the other to keep it moving. Yeah.

Dr. Dave:

Yeah. You got to keep it moving.

Tracy:

I guess I didn't get the island reference with that and-

Dr. Dave:

Yeah.

Tracy:

... but you islanders got your way of doing things.

Dr. Dave:

Yeah. Well, that's what I learned. It's a thing.

Tracy:

It's a thing. One, one, here we go.

Dr. Dave:

One one. So here's a quote, a couple quotes that I grabbed from Vienna Pharaon. "Healing happens when you move through the pains, the patterns, and stories, and walk your way into a healthy ending." And that's one quote, and then, Maya Angelou of course, she says, "Forgive yourself for not knowing what you didn't know before you learned it." So our conversation today is, the root before the fruit. So the root before the fruit concept describes the need for solid root to support a sustainable opportunity to bare fruit in our healing space. Right? And so we're going to... I'm using I, I'm using the metaphor of sower, who own good soil to plant seeds. And good soil is rich with nutrients, which created space for plants and to have an abundant food supply to support healthy development. And I'm just using us, our bodies, our minds, our spirit, as that soil. And the work that we go through... the healing aspect is the seed. So good seeds are also essential for the process of growing healthy fruits. So you are a sower aren't you?

Tracy:

I would say yes. I have not heard that term, but I'm going to say yes.

Dr. Dave:

So tell me, let's talk about you as a sower.

Tracy:

You know-

Dr. Dave:

I know you're doing some good stuff.

Tracy:

Well, I mean, I do call myself a healer. Right?

Dr. Dave:

Okay. There you go.

Tracy:

And my healing can only happen when I'm, co-creating that space for a person... I'm creating a space for a person to help them heal, which is the co-creation. Right? That's with us working together and me supporting that work. And there are many different ways to do the work. I find the richest way to do the work is through the body. Right? And then that combines... the body, I don't think of separate as the mind. I think of that altogether. There's this one theory... oh my gosh, Dave, I can't remember who said it. I want to say it goes back to Freud, of how the neck is the separator. No, it goes back to Jung, not Freud. How the neck is a separator from the mind and the body. And that what we do is we cut off. We, we become very heady.

We become a world, a society, a community that really values the intellect. And then what the body holds, is the feelings. And it holds the experiences. And we don't want that to interfere with how things are processed up here, but there's no way we can't have that thing work.