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EAFH43: Ann-Marie Kong, Coaching Social Justice Trauma


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Ann-Marie Kong, Coaching Social Justice Trauma






















Dr. Dave:
(singing) Hello, and welcome to the KnolShare with Dr. Dave Podcast. I am Dr. Dave Cornelius, your host. My conversation today is with Ann-Marie Kong. Ann-Marie, how are you today?
Ann-Marie:
I'm good, thank you, Dr. Dave. It's a delight to be here today.
Dr. Dave:
Yeah, me too. You know what? Tell us a little bit about you and your superhero.
Ann-Marie:
My superhero.
Dr. Dave:
Yeah.
Ann-Marie:
So a bit about myself, I serve as a Transformation Leadership and Co-active Agile Coach, and as a Transformation Leadership Coach, I empower leaders to transform by unlocking your potential one conversation at a time, one leader at a time. So love is really at the heart of what I do and it's who I be and what I do. I want to see more love in the world. I want to live in a world where we love the divine source. I believe in a divine source, I recognize not everybody does, and I'm not here to force my belief on anyone, but I want to see that world where we love God, the divine source, and we love each other. That's what God wants for us, to love each other, sharing love in the world. So that's my superpower. My superpower is love.
Dr. Dave:
Matter of fact, it's my word for 2021. My word for the year is love. Yeah. So tell me, how have you experienced social justice in your work, community and family?
Ann-Marie:
Social justice while we've made progress, for sure, we are able to vote, most of us have access to public education. There's a lot more work to be done and in my own experience, there isn't a balance of wealth and privilege. I didn't grow up with wealth and privilege. I'm a daughter of immigrant parents. My parents came from China. And I am an immigrant to this country. I live in Canada now. And as an immigrant, I worked hard. I studied hard. I worked hard to progress forward. Those were values that my parents instilled within me. And for me, that's my experience, true hard work to progress forward. There wasn't wealth or privilege that I had. So wealth and privilege is not something that I experienced at all and there isn't that balance of wealth and privilege at all.
Dr. Dave:
Well, certainly, that's true. So if we look at about social justice or even social injustice, based on your experience, how is that different from what you've seen in the United States? Or is it the same? Recently we've seen people marching in the streets, people dying, and it's a long history of social injustice across the world, period. So where you live in Canada, compare that would watch you have seen in the United States.
Ann-Marie:
What I see in the United States really saddens me, first of all, I want to acknowledge that. There's a lot of grief and a lot of sadness. I want to acknowledge that first of all. I see a divide in the US which is different from the experience I've had and what I'm having here in Canada and what I've lived for in my country of origin. It's a divide of people in the US, is what I'm seeing, between BIPOC and non BIPOC, if you want to call it that? Right?
Dr. Dave:
Yeah.
Ann-Marie:
Yes. So there's that divide and the images and the language media and society and our systems continue to reinforce that divide. And also we have lived experiences, the people living in the United States have lived experiences and culture and history deep into the psyche of people. Each person is a unique being and each has different lived experiences that makes that conversation between BIPOC and non BIPOC could be a very uncomfortable conversation to be had.
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