Eavesdrop as Jaime Jo Wright chats with Jamie Ogle, an award-winning author known for her historical fiction set in early church history! They're diving in at the deep end with Jamie's new release, 'As Sure as the Sea,' which is a fictional retelling of the life of St. Nicholas. But not the Santa Claus you may know, and definitely not Christmas. Explore themes of faith, persecution, and the historical context of Nicholas's life. The conversation delves into the significance of the early church, the cultural backdrop of the Roman Empire, and the personal reflections that arise from researching such profound topics.

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