Sometimes the biggest chapters in your life start in the most ordinary places.

This episode goes all the way back to a random moment in a Walmart parking lot, when Josh was still in high school, pushing carts, with no real plan for what came next.

That one conversation turned into a job, then long days on rooftops, brutal winter projects, and years of learning what hard work actually looks like.

Josh and Kenton reflect on those early seasons, hiring green kids, surviving sketchy roofs, freezing out-of-town jobs, and the kind of shared suffering that quietly builds brotherhood. They talk honestly about leadership, motivation, grit, and why mindset matters more than talent.

It’s a real conversation about:

- Growing up through hard work.

- Learning resilience the painful way.

- Building teams that actually care about each other.

- Why money isn’t the main motivator.

- How momentum is created and destroyed.

- And what it means to walk through hard things together.

This one isn’t polished or scripted. It’s raw stories, lessons learned the hard way, and a reminder that some of the most meaningful growth happens when you show up, embrace the suck, and refuse to quit.

Original theme music composed and performed by - Ben Smith

Produced by - Seth Steward Productions

Co-produced by - Kalen Wookey

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