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Many teams want AI to take over tasks, but Carlos Almeida thinks that automation comes later. Before you hand over the work, you need to understand it, control it, and measure it.
Carlos is the CEO and co-founder of Optave, where they’re building AI copilots and autopilots for customer support. In this conversation, he shares why the real work isn’t in generating responses, but in building the systems around them: the guardrails, escalation triggers, and insights that make automation trustworthy.
We talk about what makes AI useful in day-to-day operations, why trust and visibility are more important than speed, and how focusing on metrics and manager tooling led Optave to better outcomes than competitors chasing 90% automation.
🔑 What You’ll Learn in This Episode
📌 For AI Product Builders & Founders:
📌 For Business & Ops Leaders:
🔗 Resources & Links
🚀 Found the episode valuable? Share it with someone building trust into AI systems
Many teams want AI to take over tasks, but Carlos Almeida thinks that automation comes later. Before you hand over the work, you need to understand it, control it, and measure it.
Carlos is the CEO and co-founder of Optave, where they’re building AI copilots and autopilots for customer support. In this conversation, he shares why the real work isn’t in generating responses, but in building the systems around them: the guardrails, escalation triggers, and insights that make automation trustworthy.
We talk about what makes AI useful in day-to-day operations, why trust and visibility are more important than speed, and how focusing on metrics and manager tooling led Optave to better outcomes than competitors chasing 90% automation.
🔑 What You’ll Learn in This Episode
📌 For AI Product Builders & Founders:
📌 For Business & Ops Leaders:
🔗 Resources & Links
🚀 Found the episode valuable? Share it with someone building trust into AI systems