S1E3 :: Our third episode features author Andy Crouch, a wide, long and deep observer of the Church. On the first half of the podcast, we interviewed Andy about what's changed in his thinking in the last nine years since he wrote Culture Making. We then delved into his approach to technology in The Tech-Wise Family.  In the second half of the podcast, we did an on-the-ground interview with the Revs. Jon and Janna Ziegler of Church of the Resurrection L.A.—they react to Andy's thoughts and share how they conceptualize and utilize technology in their own church plant.