For the tenth episode of The Space Between Venus and Mars, we're joined by our friend Paul, who has been married for 25 years, to explore what it actually takes to build and sustain a long-term partnership.

Through stories, reflections, and honest conversation, Paul shares his experiences navigating marriage, relationship dynamics, and the evolving roles men and women play within a partnership. Together, we discuss the realities of commitment, the challenges that arise over time, and the lessons learned from more than two decades of marriage.

What makes a relationship last? How do couples navigate changing expectations around gender and partnership? And after 25 years, what wisdom can be shared with those still trying to figure it all out?

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/podcasts/celine-song-materialists-modern-love.html

Movies Referenced:

The Materialists

Jerry Maguire

Twilight