In which eavesdropping host Juliet Fraser talks to Rachel Musson about the hazy space between composition and improvisation, the magic of a flow state and imagining an industry that can sustain musicians.

References: jazz course at Porthcawl (South Wales) with Tony Oxley, Norma Winstone, John Taylor, Steve Argüelles, sound artist Jobina Tinnemans, composer Tony Dudley-Evans, Paul Hamlyn Foundation Awards for Artists, bassist Olie Brice and Bridgend Music Service (petition now closed but viewable here: https://democratic.bridgend.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?ID=26&RPID=0&HPID=0).

Rachel will perform in the eavesdropping festival at Cafe OTO on Saturday 29 March 2025: https://www.eavesdropping.london/activity/festival-2025/