In this week's Everyday Conversations Podcast, Shafer Parker and Amy Beange discuss the recent book "The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity" by Douglas Murray, who argues that the current identity politics, while striving to make a better world, doesn't provide a stable foundation for society and is leading to more division.  Shafer and Amy comment on the need for anchoring our fundamental identity in our Creator and Saviour, Jesus Christ.