Sjoerd Scott puts mental health on the agenda. Speaking from his experience as an international student coming from the Global South, finding his way in a new context in the Global North and the impact of it all on mental well being. In addition, Tais Alejandra Ruiz Palacios puts non-western perspectives in law on the agenda. What can western frameworks learn from non-western frameworks and why is it so difficult to find resources that can educate people on these non-western ways of engaging. Both Sjoerd and Tais explore these questions in conversation with each other and ECHO.