Episode 113 is here, and the theologian, pastor and author Kurt Willems joins Everything is OK!! Kurt is widely known for his brilliant podcasts Paulcast and Theology Curator — and now he is the author of Echoing Hope: How the Humanity of Jesus redeems our Pain. James has a raw talk with Kurt about the tenants of his book as well as is own lifelong struggle with pain. Deep loss is unavoidable for humans, and finding Christ in death and despair seems impossible at times. Enjoy our talk with Kurt and buy his book today!

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