(With apologies for challenging sound) we had fine conversation with Tim Eckerle, executive director of The Grant County Economic Growth Council (Marion, Indiana) for more than 35 years.

The nature of work, expectations and incentives for young people, status of restaurants during the pandemic, and the challenge of interacting by Zoom, all were part of this edition. (Zoom requires more work than in-person encounters.) And this question: is Indiana rooted too much in the past?