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Economics + Design with Deacon Rodda

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Deacon Rodda is a permaculture theorist and designer who has been working with social change organizations in Denver for more than two decades. Deacon has spearheaded localization initiatives, permaculture research, education non-profits, and social benefit business ventures. Currently, Deacon is focused on establishing a truly egalitarian heirloom currency and contributing to publications on social and ecological well-being.

In this conversation, we talk about the intersections of Economics + Design, including—

  • Imagining economic options beyond capitalism and socialism.
  • Whether advancements that make society safer have actually made them better.
  • How we create money in society and whether money is “neutral.” 
  • What Deacon feels isn’t working in our economy right now.
  • How economics and climate are as intertwined as tree roots and mycelia, and whether we’ll change the economy fast enough to survive climate collapse.
  • Designing an economy that’s good for humans and the environment.
  • The immorality of compounding interest.
  • The role of design questions in creating new economic systems.
  • And, what two values Deacon believes are foundational to building the economy he wants to see.

    • Listeners can find Deacon online, at sqglz.com, and on Instagram at @deaconrodda. You can also support Deacon’s work on Patreon, and check out and join the Favor Solutions Network, a non-capitalist, non-socialist, free-market system designed by Deacon.

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