Our guest this week is Ron Kersic, a Digital Strategy & Innovation expert at ING who advises both internally and externally with startups and scaleups. In this wide-ranging conversation, we cover platforms and ecosystems, AI's impact on our relationship with computers (shifting from "oracle to muse"), and the importance of rethinking business structures, perspectives and mindsets. Ron also offers practical advice for founders and 'O types' on focusing their curiosity and embracing ambiguity as a strength in the modern business landscape.

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00:00 Introduction to O Types Rising

00:22 Meet Ron Kersic: Futuring Architect

01:53 Exploring Ecosystems and Platforms

05:54 The Role of Technology in Business

11:14 Generative AI: A New Paradigm

21:25 Rethinking Organizations

24:52 The Value of Niches and Ecosystems

25:59 The Role of External Participants

27:31 Lessons from Airbnb's Ecosystem

28:52 B2B and Ecosystem Innovation

33:44 The Importance of Slowing Down

36:58 Embracing the O Type Mindset

39:16 Advice for O Types and Founders

42:25 Closing Thoughts and Reflections