So what's true leadership all about? Is it just bossing people around or is it something deeper? Well if you're a fan of this show, you already know where my and my guests opinions lie on this matter, and that true leadership is so much more than just delegating tasks to whoever is available. What we haven't talked about much on The Hot Mic though is about how one becomes a leader. What's the catalyst? How does it begin? Today's guest is Ed Evarts, who is both the Founder and President of Excellius Leadership Development, and also a fellow podcast host for the podcast Be Brave At Work. And we have a really engaging conversation about what true leadership not only looks, but feels like. It's more squishy and human than you might think. And away we go!