In this episode Brian and Geoff interview Edo Forsythe, who for over 20 years was a Navy Russian Instructor and Translator and served as Program Manager for the Military Cryptologic Continuing Education Program (MCCEP) and various duties as a cryptologic analyst, and his research partner Steven MacWhinnie from Hirosaki Gakuin University. We hear about their backgrounds and beginnings as well as their shared research projects over recent years. They go on to explain about the projects they are working on now, including the intersection of motivation and engagement of students in EFL/ESL. This is our first ever double interview, and we hope that you enjoy the show.

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