It’s another Time Travel episode of the EdTechLoop Podcast as we dive back in the Feed with Marty McFly’s DeLorean to Episode 36 Failing to Fail with Danelle Brostrom where we stop trying to be perfect, but endeavour to be useful. And if you find the pod useful, take a moment and subscribe and give us a rating on your app of choice and as always thanks for listening and inspiring! 

 

Danelle 0:26

We’re recording Right?

 

Danelle 0:32

think the word that I want to say.

 

Larry 0:36

I'm so confident I will not fail that I’m doing everything in sharpie.

 

Larry 0:51

It’s Episode 36 of the TCAPSLoop weekly podcast. My name is Larry Burden, and failing to be nominated for the Best ed tech podcast Grammy again this year. It's

 

Danelle 1:04

Danielle Brostrom 

 

Larry 1:05

see I like that, like that. You held it in.

 

Larry 1:08

I'm happy to be back in our usual day. 

 

Danelle

I know it's Tuesday

 

Larry

Tuesday is podcast day. 

 

Danelle

All right. Nice. 

 

Larry

Feeling into it, very into today. So um, how's it going? 

 

Danelle

It's going great. 

 

Larry

Anything new, anything exciting happening in your life? anything anything exciting?

 

Danelle 1:24

Well, today, we are starting the Launchpad, which is Traverse Heights maker space. So we're going to get some kids in there who have earned it and kind of see what they gravitate towards. My favorite part about maker spaces is getting in there and getting started. And then having the kids come in and say things like, why don't you have more Legos? Or, you really can use more duct tape? And then we go, oh, yeah, we need to get those things for the maker space. So I'm excited to get in, get kids in there, and hear their thoughts about what we're missing and what we need so we can get moving and grooving with some maker space stuff.

 

Larry 1:56

Get their minds goin’. 

 

Danelle

Yeah, exactly. 

 

Larry

So You know, our topic today is, is the failure of not failing. 

 

Danelle

Yeah. 

 

Larry

And I just want to come clean on something. So this month, I had been attempting to not do caffeine, or coffee. I, I failed this weekend. 

 

Danelle

That's Okay. 

 

Larry

And it was fabulous. It was absolutely fabulous. 

Moving on from that moment of Zen, it is that time. So get into your lotus position, clear your mind.

 

Larry 2:28

We are supposed to learn from our mistakes. But how can we learn If We are not allowed to make them?

 

Danelle 2:36

Perfect moment of zen for today, Larry.

 

Larry 2:41

So let's get our knives our forks and cut into the meat of the show. Failing. Why is it so important?

 

Danelle 2:50

This is such a hard topic. I hate failure. I hate failure. I, I was the kid that would write my homework in pen and get to the end and make a mistake. And instead of getting white out or scribbling it or just continuing I would get a brand new piece of paper and re copy the entire thing again. It really and I I struggle with this. And I think educators as a whole, we struggle with this because the stakes are so big. You know, the kids in your class, they have one shot at second grade, they have one shot at sixth grade. You have all of these pressures on you from you know, you don't want to let down your administrator. You don't want to let down those parents, you don't want to let down the community. You you've got all this state requirements and state testing and evaluations and just, there's so much on you that it's so scary to step outside the box. And it's so scary to take that that inch of a step because oh my gosh, what if I fail? What iF I mess things up? What if this is not the right move? And I don't know if other professions have this. But man, it is so scary for educators.

 

Larry 4:10

I think it's true in every profession, I think, you know, we've been talking about, or at least in education, community, failure, and allowing our students to fail and learning from our mistakes has been a topic that we've been kind of pushing, I guess, in education for a while now. I