In this episode, we look at chapter 65, which is yet another "political" chapter. I'll start with sharing a little of my journey from deciding to go to seminary to wrestling with the idea of what it means to "do theology". Then we'll look at the chapter from two very different angles:

1. Avoiding "cleverness" - simplicity and integrity in leadership. In this section we will consider the fact that Lao Tzu seems to be very anti-democratic if we read him at face value.

2. The importance of "unlearning" - we'll talk about the idea of education and return to our old concept of the important of unlearning. We'll also bring in David Jones's stark contrast between the "educated" person versus the life-long learner.

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