In this episode we discuss some of the many ways behavior and achievement can be combined or separated. Much like our previous discussion of extra credit, this discussion takes us afield into a variety of education areas and grading constructs. We discuss how we address this issue in our own classes, while still working within the procedures and policies of our learning community. We also do a bit of wishful thinking as all concrete change begins with just such an exercise. While policies regarding behavior and achievement marks are mostly above our pay grade we try and bring our combined experiences to bear on the issue.