1. What if we deleted the picture in our head of how it’s “supposed to be,” and looked at “what is” right now, as enough?
2. What makes a good apology–and why we shouldn't pretend that it is possible to reorder what we did to people.
3. Glennon describes “the ache”–and how it’s really love, coming and going, and making life more beautiful.
 
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55. Eff Perfection: Let’s Rest in the Rubble Together

Life is freaking hard. We are all doing hard things every single day – things like loving and losing; caring for children and parents; forging and ending friendships; battling addiction, illness, and loneliness; struggling in our jobs, our marriages, and our divorces; setting boundaries; and fighting for equality, purpose, freedom, joy, and peace.
On We Can Do Hard Things, Glennon Doyle, author of UNTAMED; her wife Abby Wambach; and her sister Amanda Doyle do the only thing they’ve found that has ever made life easier: Drop the fake and talk honestly about the hard things including sex, gender, parenting, blended families, bodies, anxiety, addiction, justice, boundaries, fun, quitting, overwhelm . . . all of it.
We laugh and cry and help each other carry the hard so we can all live a little bit lighter and braver, free-er, less alone.

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303. Laziness Does Not Exist with Devon Price 

Why are we so scared of laziness? How have we been convinced to tie our worthiness to busy-ness and how do we STOP and create lives we are excited to live?

Social psychologist and author, Devon Price, teaches us how we got bamboozled and sets us free from the Laziness Lie.

Discover:

-How to rest, reorient priorities, and say “No” to reclaim our time and energy and avoid burnout.
-Glennon asks Devin her favorite question: “What the hell is gender?”
-The importance of listening to dread and recognizing when something doesn’t feel right.
-Why resenting others for not doing enough often indicates that you're doing too much. 

Plus, Devon shares an exercise for reflecting on the moments when you felt most yourself and aligned with your values – in order to create more meaningful life experiences.

About Devon:
Devon Price, PhD, is a social psychologist, professor, author, and proud Autistic person. His books include Unmasking Autism and Laziness Does Not Exist. His forthcoming book, Unlearning Shame, will be released in February 2024.

Devon’s research has appeared in journals such as the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, and the Journal of Positive Psychology. Devon’s writing has appeared in the Financial Times, HuffPost, The Los Angeles Times, Business Insider, and on PBS, NPR, MSNBC, and the BBC.

He lives in Chicago, where he serves as an assistant professor at Loyola University Chicago’s School of Continuing and Professional Studies.

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Laziness Does Not Exist with Devon Price

Glennon shares an encore conversation that she and Abby had with their favorite person and co-host: Amanda Doyle!

This episode, originally titled, How to Face Your Biggest Fear with Amanda Doyle, examines the relationships, decisions, and travels that led Amanda to today – from hitchhiking across Ireland, to prosecuting child sex offenders in Rwanda, to making the biggest decision of her life in an Ethiopian airport – they dive into Amanda’s lifelong fear of the ordinary.

About Amanda:
Amanda Doyle is Glennon Doyle’s Business Manager and co-host of the We Can Do Hard Things podcast with her sister Glennon Doyle and sister-in-law Abby Wambach. She is Vice President, General Counsel, and a member of the Together Rising Board of Directors. In these roles, Amanda is responsible for overseeing and advising on legal matters, including risk management, policy development, and programmatic affairs, as well as cultivating new initiatives and relationships to strengthen the organization’s impact. A former attorney at the law firm of Hogan Lovells and Legal Fellow with International Justice Mission, Amanda lives in Falls Church, Virginia with her husband and two children.

 
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How to Make The Ordinary Come Alive with Amanda Doyle

302. Chelsea Handler on Happiness, Groundedness & the Upcoming Election

Chelsea Handler is back to join Glennon, Amanda, and Abby for a heartfelt and hilarious conversation about life. She tells us how she found her happiness, how to take accountability in your own life, and why – if she has to confront someone doing something WILD or offensive – she’s going to have a little fun! 

Discover: 
-Why being selfish is the ultimate gift we can give to the world and each other; 
-The unexpected side-effect Chelsea experienced from therapy and how to move through it if it’s happening to you, too;
-Chelsea’s thoughts about how to navigate big feelings during the upcoming election cycle; and 
-Chelsea’s story about a stranger on a chairlift and their exchange about Taylor Swift. 

For our previous conversation with Chelsea, check out:
115. Chelsea Handler: On Breaking Up & Being Unbreakable

About Chelsea
Chelsea Handler is a comedian, television host, podcast host, author, and advocate whose humor and candor have established her as one of the most celebrated voices in entertainment and pop culture.

Chelsea is the author of six New York Times bestsellers, five of which are #1 bestsellers – including Life Will Be the Death of Me. She hosts the iHeart Radio advice podcast, Dear Chelsea – and her most recent critically acclaimed comedy special, Revolution, is available on Netflix. If you want to see her live, Chelsea is currently on her Little Big Bitch stand-up tour.

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Chelsea Handler on Happiness, Groundedness & the Upcoming Election

301. What You Need To Know to Have More Fun TODAY with Catherine Price 

We’re back with Fun Expert and author of, Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price, to talk more about fun: what it is and how to have more of it. Today, we’ll discuss whether fun and productivity can coexist, thoughts about women and fun, and why the right to fun might just be innately connected to the human experience AND activism.

Discover: 
-The definitive reason why Abby has the MOST fun and how you, too, can use her fun strategy; 
-Why fun actually increases creativity and productivity; 
-Why people view women having fun as offensive and why we must do it anyway; and 
-Actionable tools you can use to invite more fun into your life!

Check out the last episode we did with Catherine and these others about fun, too:
301. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price 
4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it?
62. The Big Lies & the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos
63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos
216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay

On Catherine: 
Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times. 

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What You Need To Know to Have More Fun TODAY with Catherine Price

300. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price 

Pod Squad! Do you remember back in the very first days of the pod when we talked about FUN? It was episode 4. Now, hundreds of episodes later, we’re finally ready to give fun the long, deep dive and consideration it deserves. Abby is excited, Glennon is interested, and Amanda is skeptical, but we’re all here, ready to learn and maybe even to have a little fun. Thankfully, Fun Expert (how cool is that title?) and author of, The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price is here to be our fun ambassador and to teach us all how to draw more fun and fun opportunities into day-to-day life!

Discover: 

-The difference between real fun and fake fun;
-The mental load’s impact on fun;
-The three necessary ingredients for fun and how find your “Fun Magnets;” plus
-Abby, Glennon, and Amanda’s stand out fun moments and how they plan to create more of that in their lives.
 
Check out these other episodes, too: 
4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it?
62. The Big Lies & the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos
63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos
216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay

On Catherine: 
Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times. 

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X: @catherine_price
 
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55. Eff Perfection: Let’s Rest in the Rubble Together

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