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(recorded October 14, 2025)

Episode Sponsor: Advanced Classroom Technologies

Join Marc and Rachel for this Season Two opener, with guests: 

Owen Craig, Director of Technology at Nooksack Valley School District 
and 
Matthew Ross, Director of Technology at Napavine School District

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We chat this episode about Esports. Owen and Marc both end up tearing up. Owen and Matthew bring us up to speed on the esports domain, WSSEA in Washington, invisible careers, creating spaces and connection for students, and inspiring each of us to dream.

*Oh, and Matthew will know when esports has made it when the teams have cheerleaders. Brilliant, visible measure of success.