In this special episode dedicated 100% to politics and the current Presidential election, Doc speaks with Phil Labonte, the outspoken, libertarian vocalist of All That Remains and Ex Man of Shadows Fall. They discuss Phil's dissatisfaction with the current Libertarian Presidential ticket, the downsides of both Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton, identity politics, and how people on opposite sides of the political spectrum can have a civilized discourse.

The song clip is All That Remains "2 Weeks" from the Overcome album.

Follow Phil on Instagram and Twitter @PhilThatRemains

Follow Doc on Instagram and Twitter @DocCoyle

Buy the official Ex-Man Podcast T-shirt at doccoyle.net/shop/

Listen to more great podcasts like this at soundtalentmedia.com/

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices