Natalie Tocco is a veterinary pathologist with years of experience in autopsy of wild, pet, and zoo animals. Join host Oliver Gerharz and guest co-host Ian Hoffman in an interview discussing the grief of losing an animal, the mysteries of animal anatomy and evolution, panda diplomacy and two elephant autopsies. Check out or episodes with Dominique Brossard and Caitlin Looby if you'd like to hear more about science communication!