Elias Rønnenfelt and Johann Wald discussed Elias's solo career, including audience reactions to his intimate solo shows versus his more aggressive performances with Iceage, his songwriting process for "Heavy Glory," and his collaborations, such as his work with Dean Blunt. The conversation also touched on Elias's experiences touring since age 16, his creative process, and his approach to overcoming creative blocks and existential crises. No specific next steps were identified.