This podcast has two parts. In the first 35 minutes Betsy has an interview with Lynne Bowman, who talks about her journey to a sugar free, flour free way of life. Lynne is the author of the cookbook Brownies for Breakfast, and she gifts us with some of her recipes.  In the second part of the podcast Betsy talks about tackling sugar addiction, the book Brain over Binge, setting boundaries, and a few other things. As usual, she discloses a story from one of her old clients.