In this “Secure In Mind” podcast episode, we caught up with Elisabetta Trenta, the former Italian Minister of Defence, to discuss the concept of dual-use and how Covid-19 presents an opportunity to implement a National Security Strategy

Last week, Elisabetta Trenta and I sat down and recorded a podcast episode about her life, career, various roles, and perspectives regarding security and defence. Join us for a walk through an exceptional career, keen insight and some lessons learned – this is not to be missed. Note: our remote recording quality was poor in the first minutes – my sound engineer tried his best to smooth it as much as possible, but it is sometimes the nature of this increasingly remotely connected world we live in. Stick with it though as it generally clears after some minutes and the content is fantastic.

The Secure in Mind project Our mission is to greatly increase and encourage community discussion about technological and ethical issues that have done, are and will impact society on a global scale. There is a longstanding and distinct disconnect between the way information is packaged and presented to the public and the effectiveness of this presentation in terms of generating informed, considered debate. If we can take complex, important topics and present them, as best we can, in a manner that can interests people from outside the speciality, then we have surpassed our expectations. Nick Kelly Bio Nick is someone who, in many senses, is just like you; a human being trying to make sense of this existence of ours as we hurtle around a ball of gas in a sea of infinite eternity. More relevant though are his vacillations in the world amongst diverse countries and environments Collaborating, negotiating, elaborating and celebrating with fascinating people from all walks of life including politics, technology, activism, military and intelligence the world over. He brings this unique breadth of perspective to the table and has a dogged interest in pursuing the human story behind the title or policy, appreciating the fact that underneath all of our bravado, political correctness and dichotomous states of creation and destruction, we are, after all, merely mortals trying to make the best of it.