In this episode, Tony sits down with the extraordinary Elizabeth Grullon, the actor behind one of the most unforgettable villains in modern Star Wars storytelling: Trilla Suduri, the Second Sister from Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. Elizabeth doesn’t just talk about the role—she becomes it. At Tony’s request, she slips back into the chilling, razor‑sharp voice of the Second Sister, giving listeners a rare chance to hear that iconic performance live.

But this conversation goes far deeper than a single character.

Elizabeth opens up about the emotional and psychological layers she brought to Trilla—the trauma, the discipline, the tragedy—and how she approached playing a villain whose pain is as compelling as her power. She and Tony explore the craft of voice acting, the physicality behind vocal performance, and the responsibility of shaping a character who has become beloved across the Star Wars fandom.

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