What if we told you none of it was accidental? This week on the pod, we took a look at the HBO Max documentary, Elizabeth Taylor: The Lost Tapes, to make our predictions for the eponymous Track 2 on Taylor Swift’s upcoming album, The Life of a Showgirl, and the parallels are uncanny. These two masterminds have wielded immense fame, outsmarted the Hollywood boys’ club, and endured relentless scrutiny of their love lives. We also dig into Taylor’s Time Person of the Year interview to chat about how both stars learned to use persona as armor to survive the gauntlet of fame. We wrap up with our current obsessions: the musical stylings of Lisa Barlow and the art of touching grass.

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