Our fourth guest on Cosmos Crusaders is Ell Bogat, an incoming second year Astronomy PhD student at the University of Maryland College Park! We begin with Gokul giving a recap of his time at AAS 240, and our thoughts on Ell's interview. We then get into our conversation with Ell, where we talk about their research on direct imaging of exoplanets, their experiences as a non-binary and trans scientist, increasing gender inclusivity in the field, and more!