I talked with Ellen Castellini about The Dinner (2009) by Herman Koch, which tells the story of two families who must address a horrible secret over the course of - and this came out of left field for me - a dinner. It's a by turns grim and funny story, and we had a great time breaking down both parts.

Ellen is a mom and accountant from Chicago, and she's also the first guest who read her choice in a real life book club! We were joined by Ellen's daughter Clare, six months old as of this recording.