In this episode, we speak with Ellen Goodman. She’s the co-director of the Rutgers Institute for Information Policy and Law, in Camden, New Jersey. And at the moment, she’s conducting research on Smart Cities. What’s the future of our urban lives? Should we be excited about it, or resist it? We discuss the texture of life in cities built from the Internet up, and we talk about Sidewalk Toronto, one of the hottest smart city projects at the moment.