Ellen Stanley visited with us shortly before covid shut things down. Her episode is one that has been missing since that time, lost on a memory card stashed away in a place I would never forget having put it! Well here it is.

I would tell you what we talked about but it was a different time in a different world. What I do remember is that Ellen is warm and inviting, honest and down to earth. We are happy to finally have found this episode as it represents a part of our legacy of having conversations with interesting people. Please enjoy.

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