Elon Musk and his crew of 20-something employees spent the week interrogating federal employees, accessing sensitive data and putting American information at risk, with questionable legality and security. 

What is the work of "DOGE?" How far have things gotten and what happens next?

Plus, Grant talks to Jim Kunder, the former Deputy Administrator USAID who talks about how difficult its been to see the agency shutdown and why it's bad for US interests and good for enemies of America. 

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