Swedish singer/songwriter Peter Morén (Peter, Bjorn, and John) joins the podcast to talk about Elvis Costello's 1989 album Spike and Peter's new SunYears album The Song Forlorn.

Jason and Peter talk about how Peter got started with Elvis Costello and Spike, making albums, lyrics, collaboration, how ambitious albums can remain coherent, and much more.

The talk transitions to Peter's career and process, and the making of The Song Forlorn.

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