In the fourth episode of the Talking Transformative Assessment podcast hosts Dalene Joubert and Hanelie Adendorff interview Faika Haroun, a lecturer and coordinator from the Stellenbosch University Language Centre. Faika shares on importance of interculural communication, unpacking how a disruptive approach to language appropriation links to the development of critical thinking. The conversation touches on ethnocentricism, putting theory into practice, incorporating Artifical Intelligence into teaching and learning; as well as other facets of academic literacy.