In this episode, Charlie and Athena sit down with Chris Swanson for a powerful conversation about the real challenges and opportunities inside the electrical and construction industries. From navigating the chaos of startup life to building stronger communication habits, Chris breaks down what it truly takes to lead well in fast-growing, high-pressure environments. Together, they explore the importance of trust, clear feedback loops, and the willingness to address communication barriers head-on. Chris also shares how his team is using technology and automation to streamline electrical procurement and create more efficient workflows—offering a look at the future of innovation in a traditionally old-school industry. They wrap the discussion by reflecting on how different generations adopt technology and communicate at work, and why adaptability is one of the most underrated leadership skills. ⭐ If you enjoyed this conversation: 👉 Subscribe to the Raise Up Podcast so you never miss a new episode. 👉 Join our Circle community to connect with other leaders who are committed to growing, learning, and leading with heart.