Being perfect is incredibly overrated, and no one knows this better than Kati Szilágyi. She’s the best at rolling with the punches, embracing the imperfections in her work, and creating the most beautiful chaos you’ve ever seen (if only we could channel that skill into the chaos of our daily lives!).

She dives into all of this and more on this week’s episode of the Closer&Closer Podcast.

Hosted by Dave Arcade & Andrea Mejia-Madriz.

Podcast Art by Dave Coleman.

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