“The hustle changes shape, I don’t think it ever really ends,” Emily Flake, this week's guest, drops gems during our chat while wearing a llama onesie.

Writer, illustrator, cartoonist for The New Yorker among many others, author of "Mama Tried," "That Was Awkward: The Art & Etiquette of the Awkward Hug," and founder of St. Nell's Abbey, a humor writing residency for women — what can't she do?

Hear how she transitioned from full-time to freelance, making it NYC over Chicago, how she came to create her own writer's residency, hating Alexa and the finer points of high-end baby strollers.

Visit emilyflake.com for links to buy her books, see her comics, view performances (when performances were a thing), and generally revel in the all-around wonder that is Emily Flake.

Back her Kickstarter: St. Nell’s Abbey, a humor writing residency for womxnfolk

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