Second hour of the show starts with Crowl Man telling you why the Penguins are going to need Matt Murray at some point this season again, and he'd like to see him get a little bit of run here and there so he's not completely rusty if and when that time comes. Emily Kaplan covers hockey for ESPN and is good friend of the show who joins us to talk about the job Sullivan has done, what the national view of the Penguins season are, and take a look around the NHL as a whole. We then close out the hour with the great unsponsored football segment filled with knowledge and fun brought to you by to be determined.