In pursuit of a goal, or have you hit that proverbial wall? In today's episode, Alex and Natalie explore the relationship between ambition and adversity. If it's all about the journey rather than the destination, can ambition also be defined by the adversities faced along the path to our goals? Listen in for a detailed discussion, or skip ahead to a summary as Natalie attempts to overcome the adversity of removing her emulsion lift from the water bath. Join us by attempting a lift of your own while listening- we'd love to see the product of your ambition!