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Here's the text of what you will hear in the phone call portion:
“[I was wondering whether our emotions are time-based] Surely… but. Because otherwise they would not be connected to events. And you might suddenly feel something for no apparent reason—which is what happens in grief when time fades from prominence.
“[when you see the bigger picture, if there are emotions they would be more balanced I would think] Part of the process of traveling through grief is the re-syncing of emotions and time. Depression is often the experience of being out of sync. Sadness when there is no cause.
“All emotions are appropriate when linked in a timely way. Ok, this begs a question about our timeless state. Are we spirits emotionless? No. But we are connected to emotions through relationships not events. Can’t say more because it would not compute to you time-based entities. And they are different emotions… and don’t even ask about our emoticons.
“We feel things with the flow of relationship but flow in a different than time sense. Huh? Let me give an analogy. There is a river. It has banks. ‘The banks are full of money.’ CT! The banks experience the river as flowing by. That’s the time version. In another version the river and the banks are relational so the banks define the river’s course, even as the river defines the banks.
“So, leave it there. No, let’s do more. At times the river is thwarted by the banks and at times the river eats away the banks. And while the flow is involved, it is not the definition of either thwarting or defining. The flow is like time-based emotions getting upset with a rock that interrupts the flow, but the totality of the river and its banks do not focus on the rock or the flow. I’m done. I’m going fishing down by the riverside.
“Here’s a bon mot: The same picnic item that causes some to get angry will make others happy. Deviled eggs. ‘You know I hate those’… or ‘You know I love those.’ But the eggs don’t care.
“And another bon mot: Our emotions run highest when we are forced to relate to events or people we are not in relationship with. That’s why a stranger can evoke strong feelings. And events and people we are in relationship with can evoke such strong feelings when they seem not to relate to us. An imposed connection and a broken one have the same extreme affect.”
By Randy and Elissa Bishop-BeckerHere's the text of what you will hear in the phone call portion:
“[I was wondering whether our emotions are time-based] Surely… but. Because otherwise they would not be connected to events. And you might suddenly feel something for no apparent reason—which is what happens in grief when time fades from prominence.
“[when you see the bigger picture, if there are emotions they would be more balanced I would think] Part of the process of traveling through grief is the re-syncing of emotions and time. Depression is often the experience of being out of sync. Sadness when there is no cause.
“All emotions are appropriate when linked in a timely way. Ok, this begs a question about our timeless state. Are we spirits emotionless? No. But we are connected to emotions through relationships not events. Can’t say more because it would not compute to you time-based entities. And they are different emotions… and don’t even ask about our emoticons.
“We feel things with the flow of relationship but flow in a different than time sense. Huh? Let me give an analogy. There is a river. It has banks. ‘The banks are full of money.’ CT! The banks experience the river as flowing by. That’s the time version. In another version the river and the banks are relational so the banks define the river’s course, even as the river defines the banks.
“So, leave it there. No, let’s do more. At times the river is thwarted by the banks and at times the river eats away the banks. And while the flow is involved, it is not the definition of either thwarting or defining. The flow is like time-based emotions getting upset with a rock that interrupts the flow, but the totality of the river and its banks do not focus on the rock or the flow. I’m done. I’m going fishing down by the riverside.
“Here’s a bon mot: The same picnic item that causes some to get angry will make others happy. Deviled eggs. ‘You know I hate those’… or ‘You know I love those.’ But the eggs don’t care.
“And another bon mot: Our emotions run highest when we are forced to relate to events or people we are not in relationship with. That’s why a stranger can evoke strong feelings. And events and people we are in relationship with can evoke such strong feelings when they seem not to relate to us. An imposed connection and a broken one have the same extreme affect.”