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The Future is Spoken presents Maaike Coppens as this week's guest. Maaike is an international Conversation Design Expert, speaker and co-author of the Voice UX Workbook. With a successful background in linguistics and UX design, Maaike found conversational design the perfect blend.
Over the last couple of years, Maaike has worked with award-winning agencies, large enterprises, and innovative companies worldwide. Eager to be part of a team with an opinionated take on Conversation Design, Maaike recently joined Greenshoot Labs - a chatbot and applied AI agency in the UK - as their Head of Conversational UX.
Tune in Now!
Conversation Highlights:
[02:54] The journey to Conversational UX….
● Maaike explains that we are constantly flipping the coin in the wrong way when designing experiences.
● She had an academic path in linguistics. She then got deeper into UX. When conversational designing became more widespread, it was an ideal mix for her.
[05:35] Linguistics as a career?
● Maaike shares her perspective on choosing Linguistics as a career.
● It's great to see how conversation design has helped her think differently about human to human Conversations.
[08:44] The most important traits that a conversational Al must-have.
● Maaike explains that being flexible and being inclusive are essential traits. She also feels that relatability is also a necessary aspect for conversational Al or voice assistant.
● Accessibility and inclusivity are related, but they are not mutually exclusive.
[21:34] Enabling the disabled with Voice....
● She elaborates that when you are designing Voice assistants, empathy is critical. It is necessary to get those insights and research before doing any empathy exercises.
● Empathy becomes very important when backed up by user research.
● She still sees loads of difficulties around language proficiency. She says that instead of finding the next big thing, we should perfect the ones available.
[35:05] Reality of Voice Assistants
● She feels that if you adapt your human behaviour to technology, it is a sign that the technology is already broken.
● The industry is more reactive than being proactive in designing an inclusive solution. When amazon launched smart speakers, they never thought about disabled people.
[42:30] How can we design an inclusive solution?
● Maaike divulges what the designers can do to design an inclusive solution. She further instructs to get out of the bubble.
● She speaks that listening is the one vital skill that you need to have as a conversational designer.
[47:02] No Al without IA(Information Architecture)
● Maaike elaborates that Information Architecture is a significant part of conversational designing. It is about mapping the information available to you.
● Why do we forget the basics of UX?
● With the Information Architecture, researching and bringing in some of the UX processes into conversational designing can significantly change the experience.
[54:50] Must Listen
● Maaike's piece of advice for someone trying to get into the world of Voice.
Learn more about Maaike at
● GreenShoot Labs
If you enjoyed this episode of The Future is Spoken Podcast, then make sure to subscribe to our podcast.
Follow Shyamala Prayaga at @sprayaga
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The Future is Spoken presents Maaike Coppens as this week's guest. Maaike is an international Conversation Design Expert, speaker and co-author of the Voice UX Workbook. With a successful background in linguistics and UX design, Maaike found conversational design the perfect blend.
Over the last couple of years, Maaike has worked with award-winning agencies, large enterprises, and innovative companies worldwide. Eager to be part of a team with an opinionated take on Conversation Design, Maaike recently joined Greenshoot Labs - a chatbot and applied AI agency in the UK - as their Head of Conversational UX.
Tune in Now!
Conversation Highlights:
[02:54] The journey to Conversational UX….
● Maaike explains that we are constantly flipping the coin in the wrong way when designing experiences.
● She had an academic path in linguistics. She then got deeper into UX. When conversational designing became more widespread, it was an ideal mix for her.
[05:35] Linguistics as a career?
● Maaike shares her perspective on choosing Linguistics as a career.
● It's great to see how conversation design has helped her think differently about human to human Conversations.
[08:44] The most important traits that a conversational Al must-have.
● Maaike explains that being flexible and being inclusive are essential traits. She also feels that relatability is also a necessary aspect for conversational Al or voice assistant.
● Accessibility and inclusivity are related, but they are not mutually exclusive.
[21:34] Enabling the disabled with Voice....
● She elaborates that when you are designing Voice assistants, empathy is critical. It is necessary to get those insights and research before doing any empathy exercises.
● Empathy becomes very important when backed up by user research.
● She still sees loads of difficulties around language proficiency. She says that instead of finding the next big thing, we should perfect the ones available.
[35:05] Reality of Voice Assistants
● She feels that if you adapt your human behaviour to technology, it is a sign that the technology is already broken.
● The industry is more reactive than being proactive in designing an inclusive solution. When amazon launched smart speakers, they never thought about disabled people.
[42:30] How can we design an inclusive solution?
● Maaike divulges what the designers can do to design an inclusive solution. She further instructs to get out of the bubble.
● She speaks that listening is the one vital skill that you need to have as a conversational designer.
[47:02] No Al without IA(Information Architecture)
● Maaike elaborates that Information Architecture is a significant part of conversational designing. It is about mapping the information available to you.
● Why do we forget the basics of UX?
● With the Information Architecture, researching and bringing in some of the UX processes into conversational designing can significantly change the experience.
[54:50] Must Listen
● Maaike's piece of advice for someone trying to get into the world of Voice.
Learn more about Maaike at
● GreenShoot Labs
If you enjoyed this episode of The Future is Spoken Podcast, then make sure to subscribe to our podcast.
Follow Shyamala Prayaga at @sprayaga