Lena Ross and Jen Frahm chat with Andy Cleff about empathy and resilience in leadership. 

Topics include:

* Getting executives fully onboard with business agility. 

* Helping leaders gain a better understanding of the things in front of the change community. 

* Dealing with congruence, balancing the needs and capabilities of self, others, and context.

* Growth mindsets and a commitment to life-long learning