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In this episode of The Future of Teamwork, Dane Groeneveld, CEO of HUDDL3, chats with Shawn Sease, founder of iNeverAnswer.com. With a rich background in outbound sales, Shawn challenges the prevailing belief in the dominance of automation, emphasizing the essential role of personal touch in sales. They explore the foundation of trust in sales relationships, the importance of aligning team objectives, and the effectiveness of empathetic selling in today's digital landscape. Listen in for insights on cultivating genuine connections, balancing technology with personal interaction, and strategies for creating a collaborative team environment that drives business success.
Key Takeaways:
- [01:33] Dane introduces Shawn Sease and learns about Shawn's history in prospecting. He starts selling chocolate bars and raffle tickets in Silicon Valley, getting into high-tech sales.
- [2:19] Shawn experiences the evolution of sales from traditional methods to the current tech-driven environment with specialized roles and various tech tools.
- [03:37] Shawn runs an electronic document storage company, sells that business in 2004 to start a brewery, and then discovers the SDR (sales development role) and how the industry specialization leans into software solutions instead of the human element of people picking up a phone to cold call.
- [4:22] Shawn Sease discusses the evolution of the sales development role, emphasizing the shift towards over-specialization and lack of human touch in sales processes. Shawn highlights the challenges of modern cold calling, suggesting that success requires accepting rejection and being prepared for it.
- [08:46] Makes every sales engagement two-way, understanding the average length of cold calls and mastering the fundamentals.
- [15:45] Dane Groeneveld values building rapport in sales calls instead of being immediately bombarded with features. He appreciates it when the other person listens to objections and responds humanely and understandingly rather than questioning affordability.
- [18:00] Shawn Sease discusses the challenges of over-specialization in roles, emphasizing that what works is more important than the "right" way. Shawn stresses the importance of trust and empathy in sales.
- [22:18] Intent data, the negative side of too much data is no decision and buyer's remorse.
- [26:27] Tech Stack Tetris, navigating companies' many tools.
- [29:18] Shawn Sease discusses the precision in tools like message market fit and product-market fit before gathering information from people. Building high-precision strategies without interacting with the target audience may result in missing the mark.
- [31:06] During discovery calls and campaign planning, set realistic expectations for follow-up list-building time. Avoids overpromising meetings per month, as initial success may be due to luck or persistence in prospecting.
- [32:18] Shawn Sease emphasizes the importance of setting expectations with new clients about the time required to build follow-up lists. Curate lists and follow-ups are crucial for timing in engaging clients.
- [35:34] Shawn Sease outlines the four levels of selling in Anthony Iannarino "The Only Sales Book You'll Ever Need." Level one focuses on the product's features and benefits. Level two emphasizes customer support and problem resolution, and level three addresses specific pains and problems. Level four involves strategic selling, partnership building, and understanding the organization's strategic future. The approach starts with developing trust and rapport before pitching products or services.
- [40:33] Shawn Sease highlights the impact of personality types on team dynamics, emphasizing the need for a balance between people-oriented and process-oriented individuals.
- [44:45] The conversation<
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By Dane GroeneveldIn this episode of The Future of Teamwork, Dane Groeneveld, CEO of HUDDL3, chats with Shawn Sease, founder of iNeverAnswer.com. With a rich background in outbound sales, Shawn challenges the prevailing belief in the dominance of automation, emphasizing the essential role of personal touch in sales. They explore the foundation of trust in sales relationships, the importance of aligning team objectives, and the effectiveness of empathetic selling in today's digital landscape. Listen in for insights on cultivating genuine connections, balancing technology with personal interaction, and strategies for creating a collaborative team environment that drives business success.
Key Takeaways:
- [01:33] Dane introduces Shawn Sease and learns about Shawn's history in prospecting. He starts selling chocolate bars and raffle tickets in Silicon Valley, getting into high-tech sales.
- [2:19] Shawn experiences the evolution of sales from traditional methods to the current tech-driven environment with specialized roles and various tech tools.
- [03:37] Shawn runs an electronic document storage company, sells that business in 2004 to start a brewery, and then discovers the SDR (sales development role) and how the industry specialization leans into software solutions instead of the human element of people picking up a phone to cold call.
- [4:22] Shawn Sease discusses the evolution of the sales development role, emphasizing the shift towards over-specialization and lack of human touch in sales processes. Shawn highlights the challenges of modern cold calling, suggesting that success requires accepting rejection and being prepared for it.
- [08:46] Makes every sales engagement two-way, understanding the average length of cold calls and mastering the fundamentals.
- [15:45] Dane Groeneveld values building rapport in sales calls instead of being immediately bombarded with features. He appreciates it when the other person listens to objections and responds humanely and understandingly rather than questioning affordability.
- [18:00] Shawn Sease discusses the challenges of over-specialization in roles, emphasizing that what works is more important than the "right" way. Shawn stresses the importance of trust and empathy in sales.
- [22:18] Intent data, the negative side of too much data is no decision and buyer's remorse.
- [26:27] Tech Stack Tetris, navigating companies' many tools.
- [29:18] Shawn Sease discusses the precision in tools like message market fit and product-market fit before gathering information from people. Building high-precision strategies without interacting with the target audience may result in missing the mark.
- [31:06] During discovery calls and campaign planning, set realistic expectations for follow-up list-building time. Avoids overpromising meetings per month, as initial success may be due to luck or persistence in prospecting.
- [32:18] Shawn Sease emphasizes the importance of setting expectations with new clients about the time required to build follow-up lists. Curate lists and follow-ups are crucial for timing in engaging clients.
- [35:34] Shawn Sease outlines the four levels of selling in Anthony Iannarino "The Only Sales Book You'll Ever Need." Level one focuses on the product's features and benefits. Level two emphasizes customer support and problem resolution, and level three addresses specific pains and problems. Level four involves strategic selling, partnership building, and understanding the organization's strategic future. The approach starts with developing trust and rapport before pitching products or services.
- [40:33] Shawn Sease highlights the impact of personality types on team dynamics, emphasizing the need for a balance between people-oriented and process-oriented individuals.
- [44:45] The conversation<