In Episode 71 of PennSound podcasts, Levi Bentley, Ted Rees, and Danielle LaFrance met in the Wexler Studio in November 2019 to discuss LaFrance's books Just Like I Like It and Friendly + Fire as a part of the Housework series. Their conversation touched on the gross and grotesque, "it" as ideology, abolishing the self and the "sovereign I," empathy in a late-capitalist world, and the discomfort of being both a participant in and host to parasitic social injustice.