Payroll might not sound exciting—but what if it’s the key to unlocking better culture, stronger teams, and more resilient businesses?

In this episode, Chris Chudacoff sits down with his good friend Michael Krengel of Paylocity to talk about more than just payroll. Michael shares his unique journey from theater major to people-first business leader, and why he believes HR, employee experience, and organizational culture are the true growth drivers in today’s workplace.

🔑 What you’ll learn in this episode:

• Why mental resilience is missing in today’s workforce (and how to build it).
• The hidden role of payroll and HR systems in shaping culture.
• How technology and leadership collide to create stronger organizations.
• The importance of raising kids—and employees—who know how to fail and grow.
• Why Michael believes success is about people, not just numbers.

Whether you’re a CEO, entrepreneur, HR leader, or just someone who wants to understand the future of work, this conversation will shift how you think about culture, leadership, and business growth.