"I think we misrepresent to ourselves what it means to be late, what the impact of that is. And so I think the math that we like to do, and frankly, I do this math too, is, Oh, they'll just sort of be gathering, and I won't really miss anything."

Karen & Paul talk about whether it's acceptable to arrive late in collaborative settings. They explain how the disruption of group members coming and going can unconsciously affect everyone involved.